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I'm looking to start my build in the next month or so. So I can register and get an age related plate for my car. What is classed as major components. I've got either a MGBGT or a JAG for a donor car. Both complete obviously the JAG is massively wider than the cobra but I like the idea of a modern fuel injected V8.

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Check first to see if the engine will fit.
Small Block Fords are very narrow which helps. Also for the backend it will need to be the right Jag backend and it will need to be modified to suit.
Major components include steering, axles (front and back count as one ea.) engine, gearbox. You are allowed one other used part from another car and the rest need to be receipted as new. Otherwise you'll end up with a Q.
IVA has nothing to do with registration. IVA is run by VOSA, you need to complete an Amateur build declaration to determine which rules and which test they apply. Registration is with DVLA.
Hope that helps.
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The official list of major parts is as follows.
Original body, chassis, monocoque - 5 points
Original suspension - 2 points
Original axles both front and back - 2 points
Original transmission - 2 points
Original steering assy - 2 points
Original engine - 1 point.
If you can prove that you have sufficient original parts from the donor to give you 8 points then you should be able to get an age related plate and the new car is classified as a radically altered car built from the donor. E.g. If you put all the MGB parts into a Hawk then it will be considered as a rebuild of the donor.
As Stewbie said the rear Jag suspension needs to be modified to suit the narrow design of the Cobra. Wards the Jag specialist is used to making this conversion.
If you go for new parts then the registration number will be an up to date one unless you buy a cherished plate. The emissions needed for the engine will be dictated by its proven age. Pre 1993 avoids the need for cats and fuel injection and pre 1981 avoids emissions tests altogether.
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Pete,
That sounds like the points list to maintain the donor reg. Although I may be wrong.
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Yes, it is and thus the way to get a period plate.
I thought the request was to get an age related plate.
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Thanks guys to be honest I just want to register this bloody thing. My bad I've always loved the cobra and as I've given up racing I thought I'd get one. As a "friend" needed a bit of financial help I thought I'd go for it. Now starting to wish I hadn't. Looks like it will probably be a Q plate ready the IVA paperwork
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Whose body/ chassis is it and what donor do they recommend?
Best way forward is to build the car using what the manufacturer recommends. If it's Jag then bolt all the Jag parts on to get the age related plate. Once it's registered you could then consider an engine change to get a V8.
Likewise if it's MGB fit as many parts as you can. A Hawk chassis will as standard have read suspension brackets for both MGB and Jag so build the car as MGB and if you want an independent suspension of the Jag you can fit it later.
I assume you have a V5 for the donor, if you haven't then you will need one.
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The points listed above are for "radically altered vehicles" (hot rods)
For a kit car/conversion you have:-
Axles (both)
Steering mechanism.
Transmission.
Engine.
Suspension.

Any two of the above from one donor vehicle will get you an age related registration.
(Note: suspension is anything that connect the hubs/axle to the chassis. So wishbones etc qualify as suspension. )

Pre 1974 engines are visual smoke check only.
Cat test from post 1993. You do not need to have fuel injection. A well tuned carb will pass a cat test. But you will almost certainly need some cats in the system.
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The body/chassis is (so I'm told) BRA MK11 and MGBGT based. Although beleive at some stage Vauxhall front clip fitted. Hence getting another MG and converting it back to make things easier
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Dave,
Mine was classed as a radically altered vehicle in 1999 because it changed the body/ chassis and became re registered as a Hawk.
Have they changed the rules to relax the number of parts needed from the donor. I'm surprised if you can class the new vehicle as old if you only have two parts from the donor.
What happens if you only have the front suspension and axles and not the rear?
I do still have the engine that was registered to the donor plus transmission ( well gearbox) and steering so your info suggests that I still meet the criteria.
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