50 years young

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COX5012
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Hi Mark, I would be very keen to join you for drive and some lunch when the weather and calendar permit. My cars going in on the14th Feb to get 3rd gear sorted. After that I will make contact and sort something out. Looking at the replies, it looks like quite a few people would be up for it. Vince
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Thinking out loud Jan and I are happy for a lunch meeting on the 29th. If I can't finish the Cobra dash or it's raining then we simply use the tin top.
Happy either way - to go to lunch with the CRC or just the 289 guys at the Kennels if Colin is willing to accept more guests.
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clive wrote:The 'F' plate was the first to be issued on 1st August. All prior to then were issued on 1st January, so the 'E' plate only ran from 1st January 1967 to 31st July 1967.
Correct Clive, '67 was the short year, with the aim of moving new registrations away from the 'dead' Christmas period.
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Marsh wrote:
StewbieC wrote:Wasn't the F plate from 1/8/67? As my Landrover is 50 next month on an E :? 28/2/67
Yes, it would have been on an 'E' plate, on the basis of it first being registered on 30 January 1967.

Mark, what was the original registration number when the car was delivered to HW Motors, do you know?

I'm sorry, but the very thought of an original, Surrey registered Cobra is enough to make me need to sit in a darkened room for 15 minutes.

I'll go and stand in the corner with Roger.

I notice with delight that your car used to carry the registration 750HOT - I remember that car from the Rod Grainger book back in the early 80's and it was this very car that made me fall in love with Cobra's. Oh to be 14 again...


Lee (or KPG36C as I'd henceforth like to be known)
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I don't know the Original Reg.. Neither does the DVLA they have lost all the records for this car and many others in the change over to electronic :roll: and there is nothing in the history file, The only reg I know is HOT and that is still being used.. I guess they can't even get the makers name correct AC (electric) so I have no chance with them to find out the correct Period reg. It least i can say i am doing something for the environment by driving an electric Vehicle, Mines just powered with a 5 litre V8!!! :roll: :D
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Mark

It will have been a Guildford CC originated number as Hersham and Walton Motors were based at the time in Walton on Thames, which means that the plate will have the letters 'PA to PL' in the letter sequence, such as CPE7E or PPE20E or OPC28E as an example. The latter 2 numbers were issued to original Thames Ditton built AC 289 Sports of 427 Cobra's in period in 1967.

Interestingly, PPE20E was first issued on 20 January 1967 to COB6115, the former Billy Walker AC289 Sports, so your car could also have had this letter sequence, given it was registered just 10 days later.

There will have only been a few letter combinations in circulation at the time of your car being first registered, so it is possible to narrow down what it originally was. The Glass's Index of registration numbers (for those sad enough to care about such things) is what you need for 1967. Typically, I haven't got that particular one, but they do turn up on a well known auction site from time to time for not a lot.

If you're keen to source a more period and geographically appropriate place for your car (and given its' historical significance, you may well want to), there are suffix plate specialists such as Platesforless who can help. Their website is one of the few cherished number sites who have strong functionality to search out suffix plates by registration year. I have no affiliation with them; I am merely a satisfied customer.

Period correct Surrey numbers don't come up often, especially those first issued between 1964 and 1967, which means that you have to check sites regularly and be prepared to act quickly to avoid missing out. Expect to spend between £800 for a 7 digit plate and (much) upwards for a 5 or 6 digit plate. In the last year or so, numbers that are manufacturer relevant (Coventry plates for Jaguars, Surrey plates for AC's etc), have seen very rapid rises in value in proportion with the overall market for older cars.

Lee
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HI Marsh

Thanks for the info...
For me it would have to have to correct original plate it was first registered with not one that is more correct.
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Would Steve Gray possibly know? He has all of the original factory documents and maybe there was some record there of the original registration number.

I appreciate that the number would be assigned at the dealership, but maybe the car went back to the factory for some reason and it was recorded then........maybe?

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I have asked Steve.. I would really like to find some old info/Photos of the car as it was back then, As yet nothing has surfaced..
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Have you asked on the US Cobra forum (www.clubcobra.com) Mark?

Paul
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peterc wrote: Happy either way - to go to lunch with the CRC or just the 289 guys at the Kennels if Colin is willing to accept more guests.
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Peter, do we need to let someone at the CRC that we'd like to join them?

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