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Ford 302

Post by Le Mans » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:27 pm

Hello all
any advice appreciated
Which of the following would any of you suggest for a Hawk 289 FIA with a ford 347 stroker?

Headers - shorties or long tube? - fitting/space issues?, Gerry's headers?, Sanersons(?)

Starter Motor - Brise? or other, teeth number?, header clearance?

Water pump - stock or aluminium?

Oil pump - ?

Fuel pump - Carter?

dizzy - ?

Edelbrock RPM Performer aluminium Heads ok?

Cam?

stock ford clutch ok?


Any help, suggestions or advice appreciated

regards
Alan

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Re: Ford 302

Post by StewbieC » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:39 pm

I'd go with Gerrys headers as they will fit.
Oil pump, I'd go with a standard decent brand pump as high delivery not required.
Cam and heads should try to get a set that match up. Too lumpy a cam will make the car undrivable in traffic, will also need to match to whatever carb you are planning. Inlet manifolds are limited by bonnet clearance, if you've got a scoop you have a bit more room.
Clutch will depend on what you are doing with the car, a stock clutch will be no good for track or high hp applications.
Fuel pump depends on how much fuel your engine guzzles. To low a capacity means the engine will run lean and get hot.

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Re: Ford 302

Post by Le Mans » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:03 pm

Thanks StewbieC for answering

The engine will be stroked to 347
have approx 350-400bhp
low down torque and a nice but not too lumpy cam :wink:
it will initially have an Edelbrock carb but will be changed to IDFs in the new year
what do you think StewbieC?


so any further advice?
clutch
water pump
oil pump
fuel pump

what have others fitted

About the headers...
Gerry's are very expensive
I saw these - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Small-Block- ... 1698246477
and wondered if the central position for the collector looks about right?

I'd prefer to fit long headers - has anyone fitted any to a Hawk?

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Re: Ford 302

Post by simonjrwinter » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:07 pm

When I built my 331 stroker many years ago I was advised against the 347 (can’t for the life of me remember why now!) just make sure you have the whole assembly properly balanced. My 331 (and the 302 I have now) was smooth, quiet and powerful, much more like a modern engine and not in the slightest bit “agricultural” as you would maybe expect from an old pushrod V8.
I’d be happy to share with you the full spec of my current Real Steel built engine in my FIA, It’s an absolute beauty (as it should be at 6K plus...)
If you’re anywhere near me, you’re welcome to come and see/listen to the engine. If the weather is fine I’ll happily take you for a blatt......
JMHO.
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Re: Ford 302

Post by StewbieC » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:14 pm

Those headers will not fit.
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Re: Ford 302

Post by Karl » Fri Aug 16, 2019 9:56 pm

Sanderson FF5 are the only headers that fit the Hawk, using them since ten years on my Ford 347
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Re: Ford 302

Post by Le Mans » Sat Aug 17, 2019 9:52 am

Thanks Karl

StewbieC is there a reason you can see as to why the eeBay ones won't fit?

Thanks Simon, I'll keep your offer in mind!

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Re: Ford 302

Post by StewbieC » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:46 am

Alan,
You've got a Hawk and you should be able to work out why.
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Re: Ford 302

Post by Le Mans » Sun Aug 18, 2019 9:34 am

StewbieC wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:46 am
Alan,
You've got a Hawk and you should be able to work out why.
:shock:
Oh Stu, I have no idea! :oops: :?
is it the three bolt collector mounting flange? :|
or are you referring to the long headers?

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Re: Ford 302

Post by agnoraan » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:08 am

Hi Stu, I too would like to know the answers to these questions please? the cryptic stuff doesn't work for me I'm afraid. I asked Alan to ask this question, as a very good friend of mine is doing the engine conversion for him and he wants to know why standard shorty block huggers cant be used, as they appear to be almost identical in the shape, size and design, but a fraction of the cost of Sandersons
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